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PEP Talk Podcast With Paul Gould

Is there room for imagination, romance, even enchantment, in our evangelistic endeavour? In this episode we speak with Paul Gould about the concept of cultural apologetics and how it deals with the desirability of the gospel as it connects with deep-rooted cultural ideals.

Paul’s article on Cultural Apologetics in our “Beginner’s Guide to Apologetics” is available here.

With Paul Gould PEP Talk

Our Guest

Paul M. Gould (Ph.D. philosophy, Purdue University) is the author or editor of ten scholarly and popular-level books including Cultural ApologeticsPhilosophy: A Christian Introduction, and The Story of the Cosmos. He has been a visiting scholar at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School’s Henry Center, working on the intersection of science and faith, and is the founder and president of the Two Tasks Institute. He speaks regularly at Summit Ministries, the C.S. Lewis Institute, and the Evangelical Philosophical Society’s annual apologetics conference. Read more at www.paul-gould.com

About PEP Talk

The Persuasive Evangelism Podcast aims to equip listeners to share their faith more effectively in a sceptical world. Each episode, Andy Bannister (Solas) and Kristi Mair (Oak Hill College) chat to a guest who has a great story, a useful resource, or some other expertise that helps equip you to talk persuasively, winsomely, and engagingly with your friends, colleagues and neighbours about Jesus.

Miracles?

Most people today who start from the premise that miracles don’t or won’t happen knowingly or unknowingly depend on the influence of Scottish philosopher David Hume (1711-1776).

Hume did not originate the key ideas in his essay on miracles; most are recycled from arguments of some earlier deist writers, as Robert M. Burns has demonstrated (The Great Debate on Miracles: From Joseph Glanvill to David Hume; Lewisburg, PA: Bucknell University Press, 1981). It was Hume, however, whose influence mainstreamed these ideas so that some subsequent thinkers simply took for granted that he had established the case. Many thinkers from his own time forward offered strong responses to his case, including more sophisticated challenges based on mathematical probabilities, but Hume’s reputation in other areas lent credibility to his argument on this one.

Today scholars have published major academic critiques of Hume’s work. Oxford philosopher Richard Swinburne has been influential (The Concept of Miracle; London: Macmillan, 1970), and more recent critiques include J. Houston’s Reported Miracles: A Critique of Hume (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994), David Johnson, Hume, Holism, and Miracles (Ithaca, N.Y.: Cornell University Press, 1999), and John Earman’s Hume’s Abject Failure: The Argument Against Miracles (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2000). Against criticism that Earman critiqued Hume’s argument because of Christian bias, Earman replied that he is not a Christian; he simply thought Hume’s argument was a poor one.

Violating Nature

Scholars reconstruct Hume’s argument in various ways, though Burns is probably right that we should fill the lacunae based on Hume’s assumptions of then-current deist debates. At the fundamental level, Hume’s argument is twofold: miracles violate natural law, and we lack credible eyewitnesses for miracles. In sum (acording to the most common understanding of Hume’s argument), miracles contradict uniform human experience.

The second part of his argument (the lack of credible eyewitness support for miracles) is probably meant to support the first part: lack of experience of miracles points to the ordinary course of nature (or, Hume would say, the uniform course of nature). Hume is trying to use induction to establish a negative, deductive argument—an argument that does not fit even his own normal approach. Hume normally did not believe that a finite number of examples could establish with certainty that something would always be the case—except when it came to miracles. (He could argue that it is improbable based on his circle of evidence, but his sample size proves too limited, as we shall see.)

Modern conceptions of natural law tend to be more descriptive than prescriptive, but Hume’s conception of natural law did not even fit the dominant paradigm of his day. Newton and his early followers were theists who affirmed biblical miracles; they did not regard God, the Legislator, as subject to his own laws. For Hume to argue that we cannot expect miracles because a God could not or would not “violate” natural law is an assumption, not an argument. It assumes without argument what no Christians believed anyway: a God subject to natural law. Defining miracles as “violations” of natural law lends the impression that God breaks such laws when he acts in nature; but this requires one to assume an uninvolved creator (as in deism) or no God at all.

A human who act in nature, by, for example, catching a falling object, does not “violate” the law of gravity; persons can act within nature without violating it. Why must God be less an actor than human persons? Moreover, most biblical miracles do not even fit a tamer definition of miracle that requires an action without nearer (as opposed to more distant) natural causes: when God used a strong east wind to blow back the sea in Exodus 14:21, the proximate cause was the east wind, and Moses and his rod functioned as agents, even though God was the ultimate cause.

No Credible Witnesses

The second part of Hume’s essay, probably meant to support the first half, is particularly problematic. To argue that uniform human experience absolutely excludes miracles, one must have comprehensive knowledge of uniform human experience. Instead, Hume argues that there are no credible eyewitnesses for miracles, but circularly uses the uniformity of human experience to challenge the credibility of witnesses. By almost everyone’s definition of miracles (as opposed to less conspicuous divine activity) they are not part of nature’s ordinary course; we don’t call them “miracles” when they are our common, easily predictable experience. But in some kinds of circumstances, what we consider ordinary is not ordinary: in black holes and cases of superconductivity, physical laws appear different than under many other conditions, inviting broadened definitions of overarching laws. If we do not a priori rule out the possibility of special divine activity, it would be rational to even expect special experiences during such activity.

Various subsidiary arguments inform Hume’s argument against reliable eyewitnesses. These arguments help him to narrow the field of evidence that should be acceptable, excluding testimony from nonwhite peoples and from antiquity. He excludes, for example, claims from non-Western and nonwhite civilizations. Hume considers such peoples “ignorant and barbarous,” fitting his ethnocentrism in his other work. One could elaborate at length on his ethnocentrism, e.g., his denial of any truly great achievements in Asian and African civilizations, his widely-used support for slavery, and so forth. See e.g., C. L. Ten, “Hume’s Racism and Miracles,” Journal of Values Inquiry 36 (2002): 101–7; Charles Taliaferro, and Anders Hendrickson, “Hume’s Racism and His Case against the Miraculous,” Philosophia Christi 4 (2, 2002): 427–41; and my “A Reassessment of Hume’s Case against Miracles in Light of Testimony from the Majority World Today,” Perspectives in Religious Studies 38 (3, Fall 2011): 289–310.

Since all religions claim miracles at the beginning, he mistrusts miraculous claims from the beginning of religions. Hume’s target here is fellow Enlightenment thinkers, such as John Locke, who used early Christian miracles as evidence for Christian faith. But Hume is not correct that all religions claim miracles at their beginning, nor would the claims of some religions automatically cancel out those of others, any more than the discrediting of one witness for a case would discredit all the witnesses. (Moreover, Hume merely presupposes, with some of his contemporaries, that religions’ claims are mutually exclusive, so that genuine superhuman activity could not occur in more than one.) Excluding testimony in religious contexts presupposes what it would hope to prove.

To be credible, Hume believed, eyewitnesses must be educated, socially respectable Western white persons such as Hume and his circle; he avers that only such people have something to lose by lying. Today, of course, I can cite numerous witnesses who meet all his criteria, including medical doctors, philosophers, and plenty of fellow PhD’s. Not all of the witnesses began as Christians before the events they claim to witness, contrary to suspicion of religious bias (as if bias is endemic only to persons with religious convictions; as a former atheist, I can attest firsthand that bias is not limited to a single ideology).

A particular case allows us to understand more concretely how Hume might apply his criteria. Hume takes an example from then-recent history: Marguerite Perrier, niece of the famous mathematician and theologian Blaise Pascal, had a long-term, organic fistula in her eye that emitted a foul odour, seemed to accompany bone deterioration, and separated her from her peers because of the smell. She was instantly and publicly healed when touched by a relic (and few of us today would defend the relic’s authenticity), and the Queen Mother of France sent her own physician to examine this event. Hume points to this experience, noting that it was public, widely attested, even medically verified. It is far better verified than biblical miracles. Yet, he says, we do not believe this account; so why should we believe any other?

And then Hume moves on. He offers no argument; he simply takes for granted that no one will defend this account. Why? The setting in which Marguerite Perrier was healed was the early Jansenist movement, and nobody liked Jansenists; they were too Augustinian for French Jesuits, and, more to the point of Hume’s primary audience, they were too Catholic for Anglicans and Presbyterians. His Christian contemporaries who were accustomed to dismissing each others’ miracle claims without contrary evidence would not argue Hume’s point. But what if their sectarian dismissals were premature?

Challenging Hume’s Argument Today

David Hume was a smart man, and I do not believe that if he were around today, even he would argue his case the way he did in his day. (Admittedly, that is a postHUMous argument—sorry for injecting a bit of HUMour here.) It was one thing to deny credible eyewitness claims when the available sample size was so limited, and when most of his largely Protestant context relegated miracles to the distant past.

It would be a quite different to dismiss miracle claimants’ credibility a priori, or to make claims about uniform human experience, if there were millions of people who claimed to be witnesses. This is especially the case if one does not exclude witnesses based on sectarian or ethnic considerations.

Today, in fact, we have a fuller knowledge of global human experience, or at least the claims about such experience, and we can readily say that hundreds of millions of people claim to have witnessed or experienced divine healing. No one would argue that all of these claims represent genuine miracles, much less that they can be explained only in this way. But with hundreds of millions of claimants, it is simply not possible logically to start with an a priori claim about human experience on the matter being uniform.

In 2006, a Pew Forum survey of ten countries (representing most continents, including North America) interviewed Pentecostals, charismatics, and Christians who claimed to fit neither category. Given the percentages in the 231-page report’s executive summary, it appears that hundreds of millions of people in these ten countries alone (i.e., not even including other countries) claimed to have witnessed divine healing. Nor are such claims limited to one religion, although other surveys show millions of people with centuries of non-Christian background converting to Christianity, often despite great social pressures to the contrary, because of extraordinary miracles in Christian contexts. A 2004 survey of U.S. physicians reports that over half believed that they had witnessed miracles during their practice. (We can keep in mind here that those with scientific training tend to define miracles more narrowly and rigorously than do many others.)

My own sample size of hundreds of sources is more limited, but from written sources and my own interviews, I conclude that many of these cases are significant. They include most of the range of miracles reported in the New Testament, including instant disappearances of blindness, resuscitations from apparent (and sometimes clinically documented) death, the instant vanishing of goiters, and the like. Again, some of these are medically documented. Although I initially collected such accounts much more deliberately for my book on miracle accounts (Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts [2 vols.; Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2011]), I have since come across many more, and often with fuller documentation than available at the time.

I will not digress from my main point here to elaborate examples, but I conclude by reinforcing the point of my brief response to David Hume here. Hume’s a priori dismissal of credible eyewitness support for miracles, and thus his argument from the uniformity of human experience and nature, does not work in a twenty-first century context. That is not to say that Hume might not have tried to argue against miracles from a different standpoint, or to seek other ways to counter his contemporaries’ apologetic use of biblical miracle claims. It is to say that the case that Hume argued, on which most modern assumptions that dismiss miracles are based, is no longer logically tenable.

About the Author

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Dr Craig Keener

(PhD, Duke University) is F. M. and Ada Thompson Professor of the New Testament at Asbury Theological Seminary. He is especially known for his work as a New Testament scholar on Bible background (commentaries on the New Testament in its early Jewish and Greco-Roman settings). His award-winning, popular-level IVP Bible Background Commentary: New Testament (now in its second edition [2014], and available in a number of languages) has sold over half a million copies. This article on miracles first appeared on his blog in two parts, here and here and is used with his kind permission.

Lockdown Literature

While the country is in lockdown, many people are rediscovering reading. So we asked a range of leaders and writers what their top book recommendation for lockdown is. We don’t sell any of these titles, but if you want to get any of them, just click on the cover image, which links to a retailer. Here’s the list of recommendations:


Andy Bannister, Director of Solas
The Book That Made Your World: How the Bible Created the Soul of Western Civilisation by Vishal Mangalwadi

A brilliant and hugely readable look at the massive impact made by the Bible on everything from art, to politics, to culture, to justice. Mangalwadi is an Indian philosopher, raised in a Hindu home, but gave his life to Jesus Christ as a young man. He discovered in Jesus—and in the Bible—not merely an answer to the questions of the heart, but some of the deepest questions of the mind too. It’s fascinating to read an Indian Christian’s perspective on the impact of the Bible on life and culture—and hear an Indian’s warnings to Westerners why we forget the centrality of the scriptures at our peril.


Rosaria Butterfield. Author and Academic

The Rare Jewel of Christian Contentment by Jeremiah Burroughs

Jeremiah Burroughs, the author of Rare Jewel of Christian Contentment and one of the esteemed Westminster Divines, defines the mystery of godly, Christian contentment as: “the inward, quiet, gracious frame of spirit, freely submitting to and taking pleasure in God’s disposal in every condition” (40).  Burroughs goes on to say that godly contentment is the ABCs of the Christian life.  Contentment in all conditions and in all things is the most basic expression of the Christian life, not the most sophisticated.  What has always struck me about this book is Burroughs’ emphasis on the mystery of all of this.  Not a mystical mystery, but the paradox of faith and fact and the way that this comes together in the Person and Work of Jesus.  Of this mystery, Burroughs writes: “it may be said of one who is contented in a Christian way that he is the most contented man in the world, and yet the most unsatisfied man in the world” (42).  Godliness teaches us this mystery.


Roger Carswell, Evangelist and Author

What the Bible is All About by Henrietta Mears

What the Bible is all about‘ by Henrietta Mears is one of the best Christian books published in the last 75 years.  It is accessible, clear, not pedalling a party line but saturated by the gospel and the Lord Jesus.  It is suitable to give to non-Christians, young Christians and the most mature believers.


Martin Hodson, General Director, Baptist Union of Scotland

Microchurches by Brian Sanders

I read Microchurches by Brian Sanders last year and found a great deal of biblical and practical wisdom about a way of being church that is small, evangelical and Spirit-led, sustainable and shaped for mission. It strikes me as a book for church leaders to read thoughtfully as we reflect on what we might learn for the future from the present forced reconfiguration of church.


Phil Knox, Head of Mission to Young Adults, Evangelical Alliance

Rings of Fire by Leonard Sweet

Len is a world class futurist who asks, in Rings of Fire, what the church needs to look like in the twenty second century.  It’s a brilliant read full of red hot contemporary issues, but always looking forward to how we will need to respond decades into the future.


Kristi Mair, Oak Hill College
On  Reading Well by Karen Swallow Prior.

Prior’s book is a wonderful foray into the world of literature. “Reading literature, more than informing us, forms us.” It’s a captivating exploration of virtue formation through some of my own personal literary friends and favourites. This book will not disappoint!  As we currently face life in lockdown, On Reading Well will help you to appreciate where the good life is truly to be found.


Rebecca McLaughlin, Author

Born Again This Way by Rachel Gilson

This is a brilliant book by a remarkable writer with an astonishing story and a decade of theological training. It offers no glib before-and-after narrative, but is a practical guide for sinners—same-sex attracted and otherwise—who dare to believe that Jesus is the best lover. I wish I could have given it to my younger self.


Natasha Moore, Centre for Public Christianity, Australia
Bel Canto by Ann Patchett

A kind of magical realism meets hostage situation in an unnamed South American country. With opera. Sad and joyful and gorgeous, with some unexpected parallels for us in a time of lockdown limbo.


Michael OtsMichael Ots, Evangelist and Author

Evangelism as Exiles by Elliot Clarke

This little book is one of the best books on evangelism but I have read. Using 1 Peter as its basis it helps us to think about how we can proclaim the gospel in a society that is increasingly hostile to us. It challenges some of our passivity and fear that holds us back from evangelism.


David Robertson, Director of Third Space, City Bible Forum, Australia

The Whole Christ by Sinclair B. Ferguson 

Sinclair Ferguson – The Whole Christ – the best theological book that I have ever read…! Its a book that somehow manages to take an old and somewhat obscure theological controversy in 18th Century Scotland and turn it into one of the most beautiful and practical meditations on the person and work of Christ – and balances wonderfully the relationship between law and Gospel…


Ed ShawEd Shaw, Pastor and Living Out Leader

Julian Hardyman’s Fresh Pathways in Prayer

This is a book I’m going to be returning to during the lockdown along with my church family because it’s the most honest, practical and readable book that I’ve come across on the daily challenge of praying in all circumstances. I read it last year and am looking forward to returning to it with others so that I have some accountability in actually following the refreshing advice and helpful exercises he recommends.


Colin SinclairRev Colin Sinclair, Moderator of the Church of Scotland

The Body by Bill Bryson

One book I have enjoyed lately is the latest book from Bill Bryson, the travel writer. His latest book “The Body” is a fascinating insight into how our understanding of the body has developed down through the years. Packed with information but delivered with a light and readable touch and containing, as always, a few laugh out loud moments.”


Mark Stirling, Cornerstone Church, and The Chalmers Institute

The Cosmic Trilogy, especially That Hideous Strength by C.S. Lewis

I’m going to go with CS Lewis’ Cosmic trilogy which I recently re-read. They are brilliant and the last book especially (That Hideous Strength) is, I think, Lewis’ most prescient and alarming bit of writing. He said that it was a novel length exploration of the ideas in The Abolition of Man. It’s also a deeply unsettling illustration of the corrupting power of the desire to be admitted to the Inner Ring – another prominent theme in his writing. All-in-all hugely entertaining, but also thought provoking and challenging.


Carl R Trueman, Prof of Biblical and Religious Studies; Grove City College

War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy.

“It is a magnificent feat of literary and historical imagination but one that few people will ever have the concentrated leisure to enjoy.  It is a remarkable study of national and family dynamics, with all human drama — love, hate, fear, loss, redemption — set against the vast canvas of Napoleonic Europe.”


Vince Vitale, Author and Academic

Where is God in a Coronavirus World? by Prof John Lennox

But my vote in the current season would be for John Lennox’s Where Is God in a Coronavirus World? I know you will be encouraged by this incisive exploration of the question on so many minds, written by one of the people who has taught me most about how to think and how to live.


Compiled by Gavin Matthews
(Many of our contributors wanted to point out that their primary reading every day is still the Bible! – ed)

Where is God in a Coronavirus World?

The world has been turned upside down by the coronavirus crisis and many people are asking: where is God in all of this? In a very topical Short Answers film, Solas Director Andy Bannister explores why Christianity helps us make the most sense of suffering and pain—as well as offering us real, concrete hope in the midst of uncertainty.

Find out more about John Lennox’s new book, Where is God in a Coronavirus World?

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A Beginner’s Guide to the Argument from Miracles

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Are we all alone in the universe?  That’s the enduring question at the heart of Carl Sagan’s “Contact”.  It’s one of my favourite films and tells the story of the young scientist Ellie Arroway.  While growing up, she and her father built a radio set and played a game to see how far they could send and receive messages.  In a moving scene, after the sudden death of her father and his funeral, young Ellie turns on the radio set and starts sending messages: “Dad can you hear me?”  But no message comes.  Years later, Dr Arroway is still listening to radio transmissions, but this time from distant space as part of the SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) project.  Although she is a sceptic about the existence of the supernatural (God) she is open to the existence of the extra-terrestrial (aliens).  The rest of the story explores how her life is turned upside down when she meets a man of faith who believes in God, and receives a message that potentially comes from another planet.

There are a lot of Dr Arroways in our world today, who believe that we live in a self-existing, self-contained, closed universe of eternal matter and energy.  However, sometimes they can’t help but feel something is missing – as Sagan wrote: “The universe is a pretty big place. If it’s just us, it seems like an awful waste of space”.

However, what if the wonders and vastness of the universe point beyond themselves to something –Someone – else?  That’s why a Hebrew poet once wrote: “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands” (Psalm 19:1).

It was reported that when the first Russian cosmonaut returned to earth he testified that atheism was confirmed, because he had not found God in space.  In response, the Christian intellectual C.S. Lewis wrote a letter that argued the universe isn’t a house where God lives in the attic and we have to climb upstairs to find him.  Instead, the universe is more like a play – and its characters can only know about details about the playwright to the extent he writes them into the play itself.  Therefore, the reason we can know God exists is because God has written himself into the drama of human history.  The Creator has made Himself known within His creation.  All of history was split into two by His coming into the world: BC and AD.  We don’t have to look and listen to the stars, because we have already been contacted on this planet!

There are three main periods of history when the supernatural has broken into this world in miracles which demonstrated and corroborated God’s messages: the time of Moses, the time of the prophets Elijah and Elisha, and the time of Jesus.  You may object: that was a long time ago – people back then were superstitious and didn’t have the benefits of scientific understanding, so may have misinterpreted natural occurrences as supernatural ones.  However, they also weren’t stupid!  They sat up and paid attention when they saw the miraculous, because they knew that such things did not happen ordinarily!  Today, following in the footsteps of the sceptic philosopher David Hume, many would say that miracles are unlikely because they break the laws of nature.  There are three responses to that.

Firstly, the very existence of natural laws should make us consider the existence of a supernatural law-giver.  Secondly, the law of gravity means that if I drop an apple for a height then it will fall to the ground.  But if I reach out my hand to catch the apple, then I have not broken the natural law, rather I have intervened.  Thirdly, if you believe in a closed universe governed by natural laws, then miracles will seem implausible and impossible because you have already assumed that there is nothing and no-one beyond the universe who can intervene.  However, that belief is not based on objective science but personal faith.  If we are truly open minded, then we must be willing to subject that belief to scrutiny in the light of other historical evidence, and follow that evidence wherever it leads.  You cannot put those historical events into a test-tube or conduct repeated experiments on it for peer review – but you can listen to the eyewitness testimony of those who knew Jesus Christ.

John was one of the eyewitnesses to the historical life and work of Jesus Christ.  John goes on to record seven pieces of evidence, seven demonstrations of Jesus’ power that show that He is God.  These miracles – healing the sick, opening the eyes of the blind, multiplying food, walking on water – defied natural laws.  John also records how Jesus was put to death but was raised again to life three days later.  As astonishing as this might sound, other contemporary secular historians agree that this claim about the resurrection of Jesus been believed by Christians since the earliest times.  John finishes his account telling us: “Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book.  But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name” (20:30-31)


David lives in Edinburgh, where he is a pastor of a city centre church and engaged in apologetics and public theology ministry.  He is married to Kirsty, a doctor, and they have two little boys: Joel and Daniel (who ask the hardest questions ever!)

Further Reading:

Lee Strobel: The Case For Christ (Introductory)

C.S. Lewis: Miracles (Specialist)

Craig Keener’s article “Miracles?” here on the Solas website looks at the philosophical objections to miracles – and why they are unsatisfactory. https://wp.me/s9HhRI-miracles

PEP Talk Podcast With Anne Witton

This time on PEP Talk, Andy and Kristi speak with Anne Witton about Iranian home-cooking, discussing aliens and giving out donuts in your front garden. It’s all part of reaching out, building community and sharing the love of Christ!

With Anne Witton PEP Talk

Our Guest

Anne Witton is based in Newcastle, UK and is one of the leaders of Living Out and heads up mission at her local church (Gateshead Central Baptist Church). She also speaks on behalf of True Freedom Trust and is studying for an MA in Contemporary Missiology at Redcliffe College.

Lockdown Update for Churches

There are loads of ways in which Solas will be continuing to work during lockdown. In this video Andy Bannister explains that although we’d rather be with you in person, we still have lots of ways in which we can serve your church, and help you to share the gospel.

The first video (4mins) is for church leaders, and explains ways in which we are working with local churches  – and how we can support you in evangelism under lockdown. The second video (1min, 30) is an edited version of this, designed for online church news  packages.

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Book: Healthy Faith and the Coronovirus Crisis, Luke Cawley and Kristi Mair (eds)

Some things are, as they say, ‘timely’. Many churches as they have moved online, have used the new version of the Aaronic Blessing which the folks at Elevation Worship put together. It wasn’t done with the pandemic in mind – it was made just in time, and seemed “timely”.  Other things have been more deliberate responses to the odd circumstances of the Covid-Spring of 2020. “Healthy Faith: Biblically-based reflections to help you navigate the Coronavirus Pandemic” is one of them. And it is extremely ‘timely’.

The church has a reputation for being a bastion of cultural inertia; and of all the institutions in society, the one which might cope least well with the pace of change forced upon us of late. Yet churches have moved adapted, and mobilised to serve their locked-down communities with remarkable speed. With equally impressive speed, editors Kristi Mair and Luke Cawley have brought together an expansive cast of Christian thinkers to help steer the church and its members though almost every aspect of the rapidly evolving situation.

The topics addressed range from the big questions (such as why viruses inhabit God’s creation), right down to matters of personal devotion and using the time well to develop good practices in Bible-reading and prayer. In-between we find huge amount of thought given to how the church can function effectively, pastorally and evangelistically, as well as some advice on coping with the changes brought to family life, marriage, parenting and singleness. The book concludes with a series of appendices which look at some of the practicalities of the Christian life under lockdown, including things as diverse as end-of-life care and online safeguarding.

The range of issues addressed here is so comprehensive that it is unlikely that any one reader will be equally interested in all of them.  Some chapters are of universal relevance, Prof John Wyatt’s “On Dying Well” is a sobering, yet ultimately hope-filled, gospel-shaped response to his work as a medic in the face of death. Likewise, Eddie Lyle’s chapter on lessons from the persecuted church, is deeply moving and profound.

Some chapters are very specific. Ed Shaw writes with his usual clarity and candour about singleness in lockdown. While single folks will obviously relate directly to what Ed writes, his chapter deserves to be more widely read than that. Although the chapters on marriage and parenting were targeted more directly at my circumstances, I found hearing about other people’s experiences really valuable.

The challenge to the church to serve our communities in innovative ways (Krish Kandiah) and to seize the unusual opportunities for evangelism (Andy Bannister) are insightful, relevant and much needed.

What underlies all of this is the gospel of Christ – which is the unifying theme of this very diverse collection of essays. That’s what Tom Wright explores in his warm afterword, which begins: “Jesus’ death and resurrection are our paradigm for life.”  So, while Dan Strange guides the reader through fear into trusting Christ; and other writers such as Jill Weber and Matt Searles emphasise prayer and the Psalms; the point of unity is that Christ is risen, He is present and can be known, loved, trusted, served and proclaimed in this crisis. The specifics of where, how and with whom we do these things is explored in chapter after chapter.

If there are any weaknesses in this book they are simply the fact that some authors make the same point; but that is not going to trouble most readers who will pick and choose the chapters most relevant to them anyway. This is more than made up for by the fact that IVP have rushed this production through at breakneck speed and are offering this as an E-book for under £5! The thoroughness of the range of topics addressed and the good writing on offer here means that there really is something here for everyone.

Kristi Mair, Luke Cawley and IVP should be thanked for turning around a significant publishing exercise like this in less than a month. Something of this scope would have until recently taken at least a year to pull off. The times they are most certainly a-changin’!


Healthy Faith is available for download from ivpbooks.com £4.99 (and a hardback edition is being released soon). You can also get a copy as a gift if you sign up to support Solas.

 

 

A Beginner’s Guide to the Argument from Religious Experience

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Ask virtually anyone, including clergy, whether ‘religion’ is declining in the UK and the answer would be ‘yes’. The 2011 census showed a drop of 12 % in the number of people describing themselves as ‘Christian’ from the 2001 census (71% in 2001 – 59% in 2011). In September 2017 the British Social Attitudes Survey (BSAS) announced that more than half the country considered themselves not religious (47%) and the following year they published further analysis of the same data which showed that Church of England attendance had halved over the previous fifteen years (31% – 14%).

But perhaps all is not what it seems.

Back in 2007, Micklethwait and Wooldridge published God is Back: How the global rise of faith is changing the world? In it, they acknowledged that the British church was not expanding in the way that it was in many other parts of the world, but they also observed that there were even signs of growth in Europe, including the UK. They put this down to the impact of the Alpha Course (an introduction to Christianity created by Nicky Gumbel in 1993), the sharp rise in confirmations, ‘booming’ pilgrimages (their words) and immigration, which, contrary perhaps to common belief actually brings approximately twice as many Christians as Muslims into the UK (currently) each year. Indeed, immigration is one of the key reasons why Christianity is not declining in the UK.

Micklethwait and Wooldridge’s argument is interesting and compelling, but the picture they offer is so at odds with the ongoing stream of data that is coming from authoritative sources such as the National Census and the BSAS that the only rational explanation would seem to be that the authors simply made an error.

Yet, I want to suggest that actually Micklethwait and Wooldridge were not wrong, and that the ‘green shoots’ that they discerned, as well as their analysis of the truth of what was really happening spiritually in the UK, was more reflective of reality than the headline data from the BSAS and Census surveys.

The first point to make is that Atheism is not growing it is declining.

Kaya Burgess of The Times reported in December 2018 that a YouGov poll which they had commissioned showed that those in the UK who said they never went to church declined from 63% in 2016, to 61% in 2017 and to 56% in 2018. Of course, church attendance does not mean automatically that the people attending are Christians: many could be ‘seekers’, or ‘curious’. Or simply coming to attend a special occasion such as a baptism. But what the survey also found was that the number of people who never prayed was also down from 54 to 50% and those who ‘prayed several times a year’ increased from 10 to 13%.

Globally Atheism has been in decline since its high of 20% in 1970 to 12% in 2010 and, according to the highly respected Pew Research Centre, it is projected to be 10% by 2020. This is mainly due to rises in Christianity in Asia and Africa along with the increasing Muslim and Hindu populations.

The second point to make is that we have an unrealistic view of the spiritual life of the Britain in years gone by which clouds our perception of what is happening in the present.

The only other time before 2001 when religious data was taken in the UK was in 1851. It’s methodology was somewhat rough and ready by modern standards for it simply counted the number of people in church on a given Sunday. By that measurement (taken on 30th March), 44% of the population were at church that day. Surprisingly low you might think, but what was even more remarkable about that figure was that it was Easter Sunday.

Further back in history, research by Rodney Stark (subsequently published with Robert Finke in 2000 as Acts of Faith) has shown that church attendance in the Middle Ages may have been even lower than it is today. Indeed, church attendance must have been very bad in the Tudor times because John Lawson records in his Medieval Education and the Reformation (1967) that a law was passed making church attendance and the reading of the Bible compulsory. Something which would have been unnecessary if they were occurring naturally.

Some of this evidence, in one sense, is anecdotal, but taken as a whole, it is strongly suggestive that we have a ‘skewed’ understanding of historical spiritual life in Britain.

The final point to make is that the number of people, as The Times poll indicates, who are in the ‘spiritual but not religious’ grouping has grown exponentially. In fact there are many Christians who will answer that they are ‘not religious’ when asked, not because they are ashamed of what they believe (hopefully), but rather because institutional affiliation has become passé and unfashionable. The natural ‘liberty’ which has birthed the rampant individualism of our culture demands that we show our individuality by refusing to associate ourselves with any group. Studies such as Sparks and Honey’s (2014) have shown that Millennials especially are very interested in ‘causes’ such as climate change, but will not join Greenpeace as a demonstration of that concern. This same dynamic is being reflected in spirituality. Indeed, in spiritual terms it also means that we can pick and choose our spirituality as well without having to adhere to a set of doctrines, many of which will be uncomfortable.

Micklethwait and Wooldridge were not wrong back in 2007 when they observed a growing spirituality coming back into Europe, even the UK. What we have seen since then has confirmed their analysis; the British are as spiritually thirsty as we have ever been, perhaps more so, but at present it seems we want to create ‘bespoke’ faiths. Christianity is not dying in Britain, but ‘the church’ is struggling in an age of spiritual ‘cherry-pickers’.


Sean Oliver-Dee is a researcher and writer on global religious trends and their relationship with public policy in the inter-related fields of counter-extermism, religious networks, identity and citizenship. He is currently a Research Associate of the Oxford Centre for Christianity and Culture, Regents Park College, University of Oxford and has done consulting work with a range of NGOs and the EU.

 

Further Reading and Listening:

John Mickelthwait and Adrian Wooldridge God is back: How the rise of global rise of faith is changing the world. (2009)
David Goodhew (ed) Church Growth in Britain: 1980 to the Present (2012)
Sean Oliver-Dee God’s Unwelcome Recovery: Why the New Establishment wants to proclaim the death of faith (2015)
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PEP Talk Podcast With David Barrie

With the Coronavirus lockdown, many of us are having our relationships deeply disturbed as we struggle to connect with others from a distance. What impact does this have on the gospel? This time on PEP Talk, Andy and Kristi speak with small town pastor and football chaplain David Barrie about connecting and sharing with others in our churches, sports clubs and our communities.

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Our Guest

David Barrie is one of the pastors of Pitlochry Baptist Church in Highland Perthshire. He has served as a chaplain in Scottish Football since 2001, and for the past 8 seasons, chaplain to St Johnstone Football Club in Perth.

A New Dawn for Apologetics

I have waited my whole life to read The Lord of the Rings to my kids. Last night, we hit my favourite scene, in which the shield-maiden Éowyn confronts the Witch-king of Angmar: a terrifying agent of evil, before whom all, but she, have fled.
When Éowyn challenges this undead King, he mocks her with the words of a prophecy. “Thou fool! No living man may hinder me!” But Éowyn, who has gone into battle disguised, laughs at the line. She pulls her helmet off, her hair flows free, “No living man am I,” she says, and kills her foe. What looked like a promise of victory for the enemy only prophesied defeat.
After nine years working with Christian professors at leading secular universities, I believe we are on the edge of a similar reveal. If we look beyond the secularising West, which prophesies Christianity’s demise, to the global stage, we’ll discover that Christianity is thriving and growing, while the proportion of people without religious affiliation declines.
If we look more closely at each seeming roadblock to faith, like the three examples below, they turn out to be signposts to Christ.

1. Diversity

Christianity is an exclusivist faith. We claim Jesus is Lord, regardless of race or place or culture. But rather than pulling against diversity, as many assume, Christianity is the greatest movement for diversity in all of history. Jesus tore through the racial and cultural barriers of his day (John 4:5–29) and commanded his followers to “make disciples of all nations” (Matthew 28:19). Two thousand years later, Christianity is not only the largest global worldview (and expected to remain so) but also the most racially and culturally mixed.
To be sure, Christians have sinned time and again in this respect, and turned the love-across-differences (to which Christ calls us) into hatred, racism, and xenophobia. But the New Testament texts and the global church are the two greatest rallying points for diversity in all of history. Indeed, far from stamping out diversity, Christianity insists on it.

2. Science

Christianity proclaims an all-powerful Creator God. But far from that belief pitting us against science, it aligns us with the very origins of the modern scientific method.
The first empirical scientists believed that the God who created the universe is rational, and so they hypothesised that he built the universe according to rational laws. But they also believed this God is free, so the only way to find out what those laws are was to go and look. These two beliefs laid the foundation for empirical science, the project (in early astronomer Johannes Kepler’s words) of “thinking God’s thoughts after him.”
To be sure, science can raise complex theological questions, but Christians have been at the forefront of science from the first, and today, there are Christians at the cutting edge of every scientific field that is thought to have discredited Christianity. Rather than conceding science to atheism, we should be thrilled to discover more about God’s world — not because we don’t believe in a Creator, but precisely because we do (Revelation 4:11).

3. Sexuality

Believing that sex belongs only in marriage between one man and one woman puts us at odds with unbelieving friends. Indeed, we may find ourselves accused of hatred and bigotry. Rather than being a tiny candle in the wind of progressive morality, however, biblical sexual ethics are well supported by the data around human flourishing.
For women in particular, increasing numbers of sexual partners correlates with more sadness, depression, and suicidal ideation, while for both sexes, stable marriage is measurably good for one’s mental and physical health. Married people have more and better sex than their unmarried peers, and the happiness-maximising number of sexual partners in the last year turns out to be one!
When it comes to same-sex sexuality, we are utterly at odds with our immediate culture. But in this area as well, Christianity has more resources than most think. Some of the first Christians experienced same-sex attraction and came to Christ with homosexual histories (1 Corinthians 6:9–11). The same is true of the church today, as increasing numbers of same-sex attracted Christians are standing up for biblical sexual ethics on a costly platform of personal sacrifice.
The Bible calls us to firm boundaries around sex. But these are not hateful barriers designed to keep people out. Rather, they are marks on the playing field of human life, designed to create space for different kinds of love, each mirroring a different aspect of God’s love. In light of this, the Bible calls us to a particular model of marriage, a high view of singleness, and deep intimacy in friendships, where we are brothers and sisters (Matthew 12:50), one body (Romans 12:5), “knit together in love” (Colossians 2:2), and comrades in arms (Philippians 2:25). Indeed, Paul calls his friend Onesimus his “very heart” (Philemon 12) and tells the Thessalonians he was among them “like a nursing mother taking care of her own children” (1 Thessalonians 2:7).
In true Christian community, no one is left out. So, our response to the secular mantra “Love is love” need not be hostility or defensiveness. Rather, it can be our single Saviour’s radical claim: “Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends” (John 15:13).

The Ultimate Answer

In the area of sexuality, as in every other area of apologetics, Jesus lies at the heart of the answer. We believe that marriage is one man and one woman for life because it models Christ’s love for his church (Ephesians 5:22–33). We believe that the scientific method works because the universe is sustained by the all-powerful word of God (Hebrews 1:3). We believe in love across racial and cultural difference because one day people from every tribe and tongue and nation will worship Jesus in fellowship together (Revelation 7:9–10).
Just as Éowyn’s revelation of her sex spelled death for the Witch-king of Angmar, so time and again, when we look more closely at supposed obstacles to faith, they point us to Christ. So, let’s not sound the retreat. Instead, let’s arm ourselves with love, prayer, and humility — and with the best insights we can glean from God’s world through careful study — and let’s meet our unbelieving friends where they are.
Christ’s love compels us to embrace the hardest questions, knowing his truth will surely win the day.


Rebecca McLaughlin grew up in the UK and holds a Ph.D. in English literature from Cambridge University and a theology degree from Oak Hill College in London. In 2008, she moved to America and spent 9 years with The Veritas Forum. In September 2017, she co-founded Vocable Communications. Rebecca is the author of “Confronting Christianity; 12 Hard Questions for the World’s Largest Religion”, which is available here and she blogs at https://www.rebeccamclaughlin.org/ from where this article was republished with permission.

Book: Neither Bomb nor Bullet – Benjamin Kwashi, Archbishop on the Front Line

Ben Kwashi’s story is nothing if not remarkable. In this easy-to-read book he charts his life from his typical Nigerian childhood right through to his international leadership in the church today. The context of that story is that it takes place in the years in which Nigeria was plunged into conflict, and violence engulfed his own family in the process.

Nicely weaving his own story of being a happy, if not rather precocious child, onto the wider history of Nigeria; Ben Kwashi invites the reader both into his own world, and into that of his country. His descriptions of his own life are vivid and engaging, while his brief introduction to Nigerian history is fascinating. I was especially interested in his very mixed assessment of the legacy of British Imperialism. Whilst on one hand he acknowledges some of the benefits of education and government; on the other he his scathing about some of the policies the British pursued which have fostered inter-ethnic conflict ever since they left in 1960. One of these was that Christian churches had been banned from fully operating in some of the Northern provinces, which might have disrupted British trade with the dominant Muslim population. Whilst inter-religious tolerance was the norm in other parts of the country and the Christian churches were free to share the gospel and plant churches, it is in these places in the North where the British had prioritised trade, that have seen the subsequent spiralling violence. As a side note, I was fascinated by the fact that whilst Christian faith is often unfairly criticised as being an element of colonialism, here the British colonists actively opposed the church’s mission.

The book moves on to discuss Kwashi’s Army career, and his youthful exuberance; something that was interrupted by his profound Christian conversion as a young man. Almost immediately after finding a real and vibrant faith in Christ, Kwashi felt the call to evangelism and began preaching. Soon ordained in the Anglican Church, he had a reforming zeal which was accompanied by church growth and opposition to his efforts. He also speaks of his remarkable wife Gloria, his difficulty in persuading her to marry him; and what a truly remarkable woman she is. She is now also the subject of a biography in her own right.

The most significant part of this story, and the one which has brought it to the attention of the world however is that as an Archbishop in Jos, he has been in the frontline of the terror attacks upon Christians in Nigeria over the last two decades. First of all, Boko Haram, the militant Islamist Group, which has associations with Islamic State, and is armed and funded from the Middle East, has sustained a targeted campaign of terror, designed to drive Christians from the country. While the fate of the Chibok school girls is well known the systematic destruction of Christian communities in a sustained jihad is not; nor is the complicity of the state in allowing these attacks to remain unpunished. Kwashi’s book is an attempt to tell the world about what has gone on. Secondly, the raids by well-armed Fulani herdsmen are documented. Kwashi traces the roots of this back into historical ethnic conflict, but also demonstrates that the current wave of violence and killing has come from the Islamisation and heavy-arming of the Fulani.

Kwashi himself has had his churches and family home attacked, his wife brutally assaulted, and many parishoners killed. He still doesn’t know why the assassins sent to kill him walked away without finishing their task, as he lay praying on the floor of his office. Helping the church to form a suitable response to these killings has been a key part of Kwashi’s ministry. Alongside effectively adopting countless orphans, Kwashi has worked for peace and reconciliation in Jos – alongside local Imams. He is deeply perplexed about the government’s lack of intervention to maintain peace, safety and the rule of law in Northern Nigeria, and writes extensively about his appeals to them to uphold their constitutional responsibilities. Yet he is also conflicted about what a Christian response should be to unremitting extreme violence. On one hand, he is totally condemning of those from his own community who have resorted to extreme and illegal acts of revenge and violence. While on the other hand, he notes that violence has often been abated when villagers have offered some self-defence, and that Christians offering non-violent resistance have been simply annihilated.

One of the interesting things is that throughout this fast-moving, (and very moving) dramatic story; the core of Ben Kwashi’s life and faith remains his faith in Christ and his call to evangelism. While he has led a global movement in Anglicanism (GAFCON), attended Lambeth Conferences, and spoken to Presidents – he seems far more animated when describing people responding to his preaching and putting their faith in Jesus. The book closes with pastoral concerns, and some serious exhortations for Christians in the UK to take Christ’s call to evangelism and discipleship seriously; and for the US church to disentangle itself from politics.

“Neither Bomb nor Bullet” isn’t a work of complex theology, academic analysis of the human condition, or poetic response to injustice; but it is a rich, raw and extraordinary story which leaves an indelible mark on the reader. It is a gospel-centred narrative, which is something of a wake-up call to those of us in more peaceful parts of the world firstly to pray and support the church in places such as Nigeria; but also to think hard about the apathy that has infected large parts of the western church – and what we can learn from true evangelists like Ben Kwashi.


Neither Bomb nor Bullet is available online here: £8.19 (paperback)

Can I Choose My Own Identity? | Andy Bannister

“What’s wrong with trying to choose my own identity?” We live in a culture that tells us that we can be whatever we want to be: choose the gender, sexuality, political tribe, or any other construct that works for you. In this highly topical SHORT ANSWERS episode, Andy Bannister explores how this idea is actually tearing us apart from one another—and how the pressure of building our identity is more than we were designed to bear. In contrast, we’ll see how at the heart of the message of Jesus lies the incredible offer of a new identity that is safe, secure, and life-giving.

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A Beginner’s Guide to the Evidence for the Resurrection

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There are 5 Major Points of Interest you should know pertaining to the resurrection of Jesus.
1. Jesus’s resurrection is the ultimate test pertaining to whether Christianity is true.

Almost all historians of Jesus agree that, at the very minimum, Jesus claimed that he had a special relationship with God who had chosen him to usher in his kingdom. Among other things, they also agree that Jesus challenged the Jewish leadership and accused them of various misdeeds. The Gospels inform us that Jesus’s critics responded by challenging him to give proof to support his claims. On one of those occasions, the Gospel of John reports that Jesus answered he would rise from the dead after they had killed him (John 2:18-20). In this response, Jesus provided a test by which others could know if he was the real deal. The apostle Paul would later state that if Jesus did not rise from the dead, our faith is futile, God has not forgiven us, our loved ones who have died as followers of Jesus are forever gone, and those who are persecuted for their faith do so needlessly. In that case, Christians should party hard now, because this life is all that there is (1 Corinthians 15:12-19, 30-32). There are many items about Jesus and the Bible that are debated. But few are as important as the resurrection of Jesus. For if Jesus truly rose from the dead, Christianity is true. So, even if there were errors in the Bible, even if the author of Genesis had actually borrowed the story of Noah’s flood from the Epic of Gilgamesh, even if Israel had wiped out her enemies, not by God’s command but, by the command of its brutal kings who had claimed it was God’s will, these would only call into question the divine inspiration of the biblical literature. However, if Jesus rose from the dead, Christianity would still be true, even if certain reports in the Bible were not.

2. Historical Investigation yields “probability” rather than “certainty.”

Historians are in a predicament similar to those shared by geologists, evolutionary biologists, and archaeologists: They cannot use a time machine to return to the past in order to verify their conclusions. So, they employ strictly controlled method and choose the hypothesis that accounts for the data better than other hypotheses. That preferred hypothesis is regarded as what “probably” occurred.

3. There are a number of facts about Jesus’s fate that are nearly universally accepted by historians.

These are (1) Jesus’s death by crucifixion under the orders of the Roman governor Pontius Pilate in April of either AD 30 or AD 33. (2) Shortly thereafter, a number of his disciples had experiences that convinced them Jesus had risen from the dead and had appeared to them. Although not enjoying a universal consensus, roughly 80 percent of historians also think some of the appearances were experienced by groups. (3) A Jewish leader named Paul, who was in the throes of persecuting the Christian Church, had an experience he was convinced was the risen Jesus appearing to him; an experience that forever altered the course of his life, leading him to become a Christian who so passionately proclaimed the message of Jesus that he willingly endured persecution, beatings, imprisonment, and martyrdom.

4. The Resurrection Hypothesis accounts for the known facts far better than competing hypotheses.

The hypothesis that Jesus rose from the dead easily accounts for the experiences of many of Jesus’ disciples that led them to believe the risen Jesus had appeared to them. It accounts for their claim that Jesus had appeared to several individuals and to a few groups. It also explains why the persecutor of the Christian Church named Paul came to believe the risen Jesus had appeared to him. The alternate hypothesis most popular among non-Christian scholars is that these experiences were nothing more than hallucinations. However, the Hallucination Hypothesis does not do as well explaining the appearances of the risen Jesus as does the Resurrection Hypothesis. Multiple studies have shown that while half of those in the frame of mind to experience an hallucination actually do, only 7 percent of candidates for hallucinations experience them visually, as opposed to other modes, such as auditory, tactile (i.e., touch), kinesthetic (i.e., sense of motion), gustatory (i.e., taste), and olfactory (i.e., smell). Yet, the earliest claims are that Jesus appeared (visual) to an unthinkable 100 percent of his disciples. Moreover, since hallucinations are false sensory perceptions of something not actually present, the identical hallucination can no more be experienced by a group than every member of a group participating in the same dream simultaneously. And since Paul was far from grieving over Jesus’s death, he would not have been a good candidate for experiencing a hallucination of the risen Jesus that was so powerful that it convinced him to become one of his followers. Although, in this short article, we have only been able to compare the ability of the Resurrection and Hallucination Hypotheses to account for the facts that are widely agreed upon by scholars, there are no other hypotheses that can account for those facts as well as the Resurrection Hypothesis.

5. Conclusion: Christ is Risen Indeed!

Since the Resurrection Hypothesis accounts for the widely agreed upon facts in a manner far better than competing hypotheses do, the historian can conclude that Jesus probably rose from the dead. It follows, then, that Christianity is probably true. Because this conclusion can be arrived at apart from faith, one is certainly rational to believe Jesus rose from the dead and to become one of his followers. And, if Jesus truly rose as the evidence suggests, there are important matters that can be inferred. We can know that each of us has intrinsic value, since we were created by God. This means that YOU possess great value because God created you. We can also know that God loves us, that we are never alone, and that following Jesus yields eternal life, which opens the door to fellowship with God in this life and to enjoy him forever in heaven.


Michael R. Licona, Ph.D. is associate professor of theology at Houston Baptist University and president of Risen Jesus, Inc. He is the author of several books, including The Resurrection of Jesus: A New Historiographical Approach (IVP Academic) and Why Are There Differences in the Gospels? What We Can Learn From Ancient Biography (Oxford University Press). Visit Mike’s web site: https://www.risenjesus.com and YouTube channel: https://bit.ly/2KiV88L.

Further Reading:
Intro Level: Gary R. Habermas and Michael R. LiconaThe Case for the Resurrection of Jesus (Grand Rapids: Kregel, 2014)
Intro Level: Michael R. LiconaPaul Meets Muhammad (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2006)
Intermediate Level and for Specialists: Michael R. LiconaThe Resurrection of Jesus: A New Historiographical Approach (Downers Grove: IVP Academic, 2010)

Debating the Resurrection of Jesus

St Andrews University Christian Union hosted a debate entitled “Did Jesus rise from the dead?” Andy Bannister author of The Atheist Who Didn’t Exist, went up against John Richards who wrote his book Theist!: The dreadful consequences of thinking like a Theist in response to Andy’s book. On paper at least this looked to be a fascinating debate.

Andy began by addressing the accounts of resurrection on their own terms, looking at whether the sources could be seen to be trustworthy and setting up criteria for assessment (do we have multiple sources, how early are they, is there eye witness testimony etc), as well asking about the behaviour of the disciples following the death of Jesus and the questioning why a fake first century story would base itself of the testimony of women). As well as relying on a huge variety of sources from secular, Jewish, Christian scholars, Andy effectively laid out some of the key reasons for believing the resurrection is based on some level of evidence, rather than a blind misguided desire to believe that God is real.

Conversely John opted for three main strategies of attack, firstly by claiming that Resurrection often forms a key part of ancient mythologies (notably Egyptian and Greek). John then proceeded to argue that source material is inherently untrustworthy. Finally, he argued that we can only trust that which we can prove via the scientific method, meaning we cannot believe resurrection occurred because it goes against that which science says is possible.

Personally, I found most of John’s arguments to be weak and lacking academic rigour, with some obvious problems in his logic. For example, Andy roundly destroyed his idea that resurrection is to be found in many of the world’s religions citing Johnathan Z. Smiths work Dying and Rising Gods. John argued that Constantine doctored the New Testament writings in AD300 (a belief that I believe was made popular by the Da Vinci Code in 2003) but provided no source material (academic or otherwise) for why this would be the case. In addition, John failed to address the idea that resurrection is a supernatural event which is the very reason it’s important in Christian history (and that’s skipping over the issue that the only things we can believe and those that are empirically proven is in itself, a statement which cannot be proven). John did show his foresight in producing a list of academics he believed Andy would reference, Yet unfortunately he was unable to reference many world leading scholars himself to address Andy’s position, which given the debate was at one of the world’s oldest universities isn’t a strategy I would have adopted myself.

In the end however, both participants came down to the position that this is something that this does come down to faith. Andy told the audience about how his life was changed by the person of Jesus and essentially argued that this is a topic that is worth your time.

Looking back at the event, Annie, one of the leaders of the CU added:

One first year told me his friends from halls went in firmly against the claim of Jesus’ resurrection, but left almost convinced the other way! Two other members also spent an hour with a guy who’d come by himself having been given a flyer, who was convinced that science held all the answers to life and was stunned by the fact that there were rational and compelling arguments for Christianity. All in all, we are so encouraged and excited by the ways we’re seeing God using this event.”

If you are interested in watching the debate, you can find it on YouTube, although none of the important information on the screen was captured by the camera.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4mR2K9y6aM.


Jack Johnson is a PhD student at the university of St. Andrews in Divinity (specifically systematic Theology). he did a MLitt in Systematic and Historical Theology at St Andrews and a BA (hons) in Christian Theology and Politics at Liverpool Hope University, where he was also Student Union President. He is originally from Liverpool, but has lived in various parts of England prior to coming to Scotland.

To find out more about St Andrews University Christian Union click here.